This is a follow-up response to Jonathan's post "A Hero and the Nazis".
All in all, I did not enjoy this episode. However, I can look past the obvious holes in Cordelia's logic, Doyle's lack of reasonable motivation for martyrdom, and the lack of Angel's presence. One thing I cannot forgive is the vague back story and terrible character model of "the Scourge". If these guys are so scary they can wipe out entire races of demons, then why haven't we heard of them before? The worst part about them is that before I even saw them embodied on screen, I knew they were going to be modeled after the Nazis. I felt like they were a villainous cop-out, like Whedon thought, "let's make these guys like Nazis...except with demon faces, so they will fit the theme of the show". Everything was copacetic with the Nazi archetype, from the marching to the uniforms, and the Scourge's intense desire to fulfill the mission at any cost. This all made me wonder. Do the characters of Angel have the same historical perspective as we do? Or am I just throwing my own history knowledge all over fiction that I have no business making historical assumptions about? In other words, in the world of Angel, was there a Holocaust? Was there a Hitler? I'm watching the episode, and sitting here wondering if Doyle or Angel are going to be like, "so these guys are like the undead Nazis, right?" I had to step back and wonder if I should be taking my own species' history into account when I watch/read science fiction or fantasy media. Although they are supposed to live in a real city, and there are real humans with real jobs, should we as an audience be assuming they have had the same historical experience that we have as a species?
Hitler: just as scary with a normal face, the first time around.
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I don't think there is any reason to assume that we are presented with a world where "our" history is not the "actual" history of the show.
I don't think there are instances where there is divergence from recorded history.
Nazis were a bad choice.
"Nazis were a bad choice."
But why? I mean, the Nazis were *real*. If we act like they are off-limits and can never happen again, aren't we being quite naive?
Why is a symbol of the ultimate evil off limits?
I'll also point out that people have been discussing these points all over the blog this week.
I think we have proven, by our blogs, papers, and comments that even if the "Nazis" were not the most creative choice, they were at least a smart one. Look at all the conversation and debate they have inspired, they got people talking, debating, and hypothesizing.
Totally worth it in my opinion.
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